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Posted by BearOso

Speculation says the regime may have deliberately caused the blackout to prevent info about Guaido and opposition from spreading. Even if not, it would be complete negligence and mismanagement, so the regime is still to blame.

Posted by sureanem

Why, though? You're cutting off your nose to spite the face, no? It'd have to be an almost cartoonish evil. Why not just cut the phone lines, if that was the goal? Why carry out the single action most likely to increase resentment against the already unpopular government, short of outright Arab Spring-style protester shootings?

Posted by sureanem
I don't follow the news that
Why, though? You're cutting off your nose to spite the face, no? It'd have to be an almost cartoonish evil.

Posted by KoiMaxx

Most regimes aren't completely homogeneous, and there might be little control the leader has with regards to goings-on on the ground. It's completely possible someone from the ranks panicked and took independent action, without completely seeing the big picture and the repercussions of their actions. It might also be possible someone from an internal faction is positioning themselves for a takeover.

Of course it can simply due to an accident, but politics is so cutthroat (sometimes literally), and I wouldn't be surprised if it weren't an accident.

Today Venezuela basically crossed off an entire industry. In one day. No more industrial aluminum production. Just like that. It’s gone.

#8Mar CVG #Venalum just died. A reducing plant aluminum, model for Latin America, had 59 reduction cells and with the collapse of Guri lost tension in the 4 trilineas of 115 KV. Cells are turned off and once they are turned off, they are lost.

They had to shut off the cells at the Venalum plant meaning that all the molten metal solidified in the equipment. Basically it destroyed all the equipment because they had no power.
when this happens, you lose the cell, it cannot be recovered...
They had already lost some of the cells in previous blackouts but they lost all of the remaining ones yesterday, it’s a catastrophic shutdown

Posted by sureanem

b) the US did it as a step in toppling the regime

Posted by CaptainJistuce

If the US was trying to take out Venezuela, we would've DONE IT by now. The country's problems are genuinely self-inflicted, and fairly well-documented as such.
Also, the CIA probably wanted the aluminum equipment intact and usable.

Their dictator-in-chief is an inept, ham-fisted, and violent buffoon and his clumsy attempts to manipulate the mood of the people are doing more damage to his position than the CIA ever could.

According to the Venezuelan government, the blackout was an act of sabotage masterminded by the opposition leader, which is standard practice for Maduro. Every time anything goes wrong, it is the opposition's fiendish plan to destroy the country and sell it to the capitalist pigdogs. And every time something goes right for the opposition, Maduro makes sure something goes wrong in the country.

Would Venezuelans support foreign military intervention?

My research in Venezuela suggests otherwise.

All credible polling in Venezuela says that most Venezuelans desperately want Maduro out. But that does not necessarily mean they are open to desperate measures.

In November 2018, I worked with Datanálisis, one of Venezuela’s most respected polling companies, to add several questions about about military intervention and potential negotiations to its nationwide tracking poll.

When asked whether they would support “a foreign military intervention to remove President Maduro from his position,” only 35 percent said yes — hardly the warm welcome predicted by advocates. More than half — 54 percent — would reject such an operation.

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