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| wertigon |
Posted on 22-03-26, 16:45
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Post: #184 of 205
Since: 11-24-18 Last post: 162 days Last view: 1 day |
Hi, this will be me mostly venting over Windows users that think Linux is a drop in replacement for Windows. If you got better things to do than listen what an old Linux veteran thinks about this, then stop reading now. I've heard this argument a few times the last month or so. It goes something like this; "I can switch off Windows any time, and I hate what is happening with Windows 11 so I'll probably go Linux next year!" The short answer is, no you won't, that is a lie, and if you are thinking that way then you need to stop lying to yourself. Some disclaimers here, I have nothing against Windows as a whole or that you specifically use it. At the same time I love Linux for what it is, I love the strides it is making in the gaming space and it makes an incredibly capable gaming machine today, with Wine having even better compatibilty than Windows 10/11 for some games. Lutris, Proton and Steam are all making great strides to bridge the gap. Linux gaming isn't the madman task it once was, and that is a good thing. At the same time there are still quite a few problems to resolve, it is a shitfest on the multiplayer arena, the most popular discrete GPU line (Nvidia) have such bad driver integration it is silly, Easy Anti Cheat and it's brethren are still a problem and compatibility is hit and miss. Streaming and RGB are also nowhere near where it should be, even though it is possible, I guess. It is simply easier to just run Windows, if gaming is your primary purpose for a PC. On the flip side, Linux is a great OS in other aspects. It is very unobtrusive; gets out of your way; regular tasks like printing are often more polished; it is infinitely more customizable when it comes to desktop customization and a heap of other advantages. This makes it a highly desirable operating system for power users and light users alike. A lot of the things on the Linux side are simply much better thought out than on the Windows side. So, you are running Windows 10, and you start feeling the pull? Worried about Windows 11? Windows 10 will go E.O.L on October 14th, 2025. That is roughly 3.5 years from now. So you have a choice to make. And you are not going to like it. The choices you have are: 1. Stick to Windows 10 2. Upgrade to Windows 11 3. Jump to a Linux based OS like Ubuntu, Fedora, or Arch Since option 1 will be less and less feasible, with 3 years to go, it is time to start to consider the other two options. Sure, you can be on the fence - but, why? If you can upgrade, upgrade already. Sticking to 10 is only a stop gap measure and will be more and more painful as time moves on. Option 2, yeah, no... Not going to do that... Maybe... Well... Except you are. This is the default option. You will need to jump the ship either way. There are no real technical reasons to hold off now that most early bugs in Windows 11 have been resolved. Come this summer, Windows 11 will have very little reason to hold back, and holding off will hurt more and more. Option 3, get off the Windows train. This is what you'd like to do. Except you can't. Because App X does not work. Because your buddies want to play game Y. You will find a thousand reasons to not install Linux, even though you know in your heart it might be the correct move for you. And thus, you prove once and for all that you are hooked on Windows, and so knee deep you cannot cut ties, possibly ever. Now, don't get me wrong. Windows, Linux, Mac OS - doesn't really matter what you run as long as you are happy with it. There is no Linux heaven where 72 attractive, young virgins in penguin costumes are waiting for you to serve your every need if you just stay enough Linux-y. There is only the satisfaction of a well-oiled OS working as good as you can possibly get it. So what is my point here? If you are on Windows 10 and planning to go 100% Linux, now is as good a time as any, and it is unlikely Linux will be that much different in three years. If you don't want to, that is fine too, but then you should plan to install Windows 11 ASAP. Either way is fine. Just stop lying to yourself that Windows 11 is somehow going to be the last straw - it most probably isn't. |
| CaptainJistuce |
Posted on 22-03-26, 23:30 (revision 2)
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 Post: #1067 of 1164 Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 70 days Last view: 6 hours |
Posted by wertigonWell, there goes any motivation I ever had to do Linux. --- In UTF-16, where available. --- |
| creaothceann |
Posted on 22-03-27, 09:34
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 Post: #392 of 456 Since: 10-29-18 Last post: 51 days Last view: 1 hour |
That's what Linus (LTT) concluded from his one-month experiment. Personally I see no reason to upgrade from Windows 10 yet, there'll be no software that I'll use that is only compatible with W11, except maybe some tools that fix UI issues. I'm not in need of a new system either, I have a 4790K and an RTX 3070 and am still GPU-limited in the games I play (not counting emulation). Perhaps I'll upgrade to 11 if I can remove MS's compatibility checks. My current setup: Super Famicom ("2/1/3" SNS-CPU-1CHIP-02) → SCART → OSSC → StarTech USB3HDCAP → AmaRecTV 3.10 |
| wertigon |
Posted on 22-03-27, 12:55
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Post: #185 of 205
Since: 11-24-18 Last post: 162 days Last view: 1 day |
Posted by creaothceann Yeah, no, you *can't* upgrade to Windows 11 with that. Need a motherboard with LGA1151, LGA1200, LGA1700, AM4 or AM5 sockets. By late 2025 no supported Windows will run on your system as it stands today. Period. |
| creaothceann |
Posted on 22-03-27, 14:52 (revision 1)
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Post: #393 of 456 Since: 10-29-18 Last post: 51 days Last view: 1 hour |
Posted by wertigon Yeah, that's another reason why I'm not upgrading right now - the longer I wait, the better my next system will be. Posted by wertigon Still a 'maybe' imo; we'll see. For now it seems like it's still possible, though I guess some software would just not run on my system. https://www.elevenforum.com/t/upgrade-to-w11-tpm-2-0-issue.5368/#post-105371 https://www.techspot.com/community/topics/unsupported-windows-11-devices-will-get-a-desktop-watermark-after-all.274412/ My current setup: Super Famicom ("2/1/3" SNS-CPU-1CHIP-02) → SCART → OSSC → StarTech USB3HDCAP → AmaRecTV 3.10 |
| wertigon |
Posted on 22-03-27, 17:14
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Post: #186 of 205
Since: 11-24-18 Last post: 162 days Last view: 1 day |
Posted by creaothceann Yes, exactly. It will be possible to run it unsupported just like some people still run 7 and XP unsupported. Doesn't mean it won't work... Just that there will be no more security updates nor will there be third party devs that will support your junk. As long as that is satisfactory, then you do you. :) |
| tomman |
Posted on 22-04-10, 02:32
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 Post: #1082 of 1318 Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 3 days Last view: 1 hour |
It's fine. I don't need a Windows replacement because I don't use Windows for my daily stuff anymore. I'll know my hardware is well past its expiry date the day Debian stops supporting. Licensed Pirate® since 2006, 100% Buttcoin™-free, enemy of All Things JavaScript™ |
| desudesu |
Posted on 22-06-16, 21:35
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Post: #25 of 62
Since: 01-29-22 Last post: 871 days Last view: 871 days |
I feel like the average user doesn't really care about customisation, all they want is for it to work out of the box with no issues, be able to essentially just install things to the start menu and launch it the way you would on Windows, etc. - with Linux there's generally a lot more commitment to reading up and if the floodgates to normalcy are opened, I can see a similar situation happening to what's going on in the anime community, where you have many longer-time people becoming bitter over 'normies ruined the community' and whatnot; said people gradually being phased out of the greater community and whatnot. This isn't 2005 anymore, when at a point during the XP era your average person actually knew what a torrent was or when people would like the idea of screensavers and whatnot (at least where I live), so yeah. Just talking more from the perspective of a non-tech savvy type of person, since these boards tend to cater to the more dedicated audiences anyways. Probably sounds stupid, oh well. |
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