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| creaothceann |
Posted on 20-09-07, 18:32
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Posted by wertigon If there's one thing I hate about HDDs it's the noise, so that wouldn't work for me. Unfortunately my apartment is relatively small, so the NAS is still in the living room, but the HDDs are sleeping most of the time. (Which adds the wake up delay to the HDDs' access times.) Posted by wertigon I noticed, but I hurt myself too much by limited working space back in the dark times, before SATA, when drives were still connected via ribbon cables and 'cable management' was an unknown concept. My current setup: Super Famicom ("2/1/3" SNS-CPU-1CHIP-02) → SCART → OSSC → StarTech USB3HDCAP → AmaRecTV 3.10 |
| wertigon |
Posted on 20-09-07, 21:47
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Since: 11-24-18 Last post: 162 days Last view: 1 day |
Posted by creaothceann Yeah, you can certainly cut yourself badly, it's really important to keep track of your supported dimensions. At the same time, given how much extra skill is involved in building ridiculously small systems, well... Way too easy to fly too close to the sun, but getting that sweet spot with 2mm to spare sure gives a nice feeling! ;) And yeah I remember those ribbon cables, I even remember pictures of a case or two that actually had proper cable management. They folded the ribbon cables in 90-degree angles all around the case, but the images seem to have been lost to time... :( |
| kode54 |
Posted on 20-09-07, 22:41
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Also, you do know that USB is CPU bound, right? And that SATA isn't? |
| funkyass |
Posted on 20-09-07, 23:51
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Post: #161 of 202
Since: 11-01-18 Last post: 667 days Last view: 22 days |
Posted by kode54 my CPU doesn't seem to notice. |
| kode54 |
Posted on 20-09-08, 01:04
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Post: #83 of 105 Since: 11-13-19 Last post: 1468 days Last view: 1468 days |
It doesn't notice when you're churning 200MB/s across it? Ok, shove a RAID on USB ports. That's perfectly fine. |
| CaptainJistuce |
Posted on 20-09-08, 03:32
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Hook 'em up through USB-C in thunderbolt mode. --- In UTF-16, where available. --- |
| funkyass |
Posted on 20-09-08, 03:58 (revision 1)
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Post: #162 of 202
Since: 11-01-18 Last post: 667 days Last view: 22 days |
copying 2 different isos from two different usb 3.0 sticks barely moved the utilization % past 7 on my 3700x, both sticks supplying 128 MB/s each to my nvme drive. Firewire was also less of a CPU hog vs USB 2.0, but its not 2005. |
| kode54 |
Posted on 20-09-08, 04:33 (revision 1)
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Post: #84 of 105 Since: 11-13-19 Last post: 1468 days Last view: 1468 days |
Fine, you buy your new shit, I'll keep using something that still works for another decade. Also, what the fuck, are you going to route external cables for internal drives, or is everyone supposed to be moving to tiny ass micro PCs by 2022 too? |
| funkyass |
Posted on 20-09-08, 07:49 (revision 1)
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Post: #163 of 202
Since: 11-01-18 Last post: 667 days Last view: 22 days |
Posted by kode54 Futures gonna be wireless- seriously USB-C before then. |
| wertigon |
Posted on 20-09-08, 10:18
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Post: #147 of 205
Since: 11-24-18 Last post: 162 days Last view: 1 day |
Posted by kode54 You are aware single-core computers will not exist anywhere on the market in 2030 right? Maybe for small, low-end embedded systems, but otherwise most of the world will have moved on. Today high-end CPUs starts at 16c32t beasts all the way to 64c128t, this will probably be at *least* 256c/1024t machines by 2030 running at 4-5 GHz boost clocks. Lowest end will probably be 16 cores by then. At that point, lending one core to focus 100% on a single data transfer OP will be perfectly acceptable even for a Low-end NAS. Software raid will probably also be a thing. Posted by kode54 There will still be room for large cases - but just like we moved from MicroVAX form factor to full tower to mid-tower, I think the future desktops will be small enough to mount on the back of our monitors. Instead of having an iMac we simply combine a screen and an upgradable PC unit, which is actually an awesome setup to have. :) 2TB is not enough for everyone, but it's a lot of storage for most people. Especially given how ubiquitous cloud storage is (where you let another company back up your data). But 'dem warez and pr0n are a thing of course... |
| tomman |
Posted on 20-09-08, 14:20
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Dinosaur
 Post: #768 of 1318 Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 3 days Last view: 3 hours |
Either spinning rust goes full native USB on both 2.5" and 3.5" (the latter won't be happening at least until USB can supply 12V - there will always be a SATA bridgeboard somewhere), or we leave SATA ports alone. If performance of HDDs eventually bottleneck SATA/6Gb (which may or may not happen in our lifetimes considering that the tech is currently as cutting-edge as it is physically possible), why not just raise clock speeds again? It worked fine for the SAS guys (they do have SAS/12Gb, although by then 10/15K screamers were already passé, NVMe happened, and in the case of slow, bottomless tanks they were just fine with cheap SATA drives as RAID is still a thing) Posted by wertigon By then even those will not be enough for your Facebooks, Slacks and Discords, because Chinese Silly Valley will still be too busy churning out Javascript (or the hipster language of the year) bloatfests. We don't need faster CPUs - what we need is for us coders (yes, that includes me!) to stop considering that "hardware is cheap, developer time is not". Hardware is NOT cheap when it's your users who have to afford the needless upgrade bills! I'm all for faster video encoding boxes and sub-second Linux kernel build times, but if the main force for upgrading is being able to run the latest $SOCIALFAD whose functionality at its core is no different from '90s IRC (but with emojis!), then I'll stick to my museum-grade hardware, thanks. And don't get me started with videogames (remind me why we play videogames, pretty please? It's not for the specs, dummy!) Licensed Pirate® since 2006, 100% Buttcoin™-free, enemy of All Things JavaScript™ |
| CaptainJistuce |
Posted on 20-09-08, 23:01
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Post: #924 of 1164 Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 70 days Last view: 8 hours |
Posted by wertigonYou left out the part where we went from mini-towers back to mid-towers. My AT machine is smaller than my ATX machine, in large part because the drive cage and power supply overhang the motherboard. Like an ITX machine, only with less origami and no special cooling considerations. Modern processor and graphics adapter power demands make this a very challenging form factor to work with instead of just "how computers are built". Yes, even smaller systems exist, but they wind up being very restricted by heat unless a LOT of care is put into the cooling design(as we continue to see with laptops every year) --- In UTF-16, where available. --- |
| kode54 |
Posted on 20-09-09, 05:48
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Post: #85 of 105 Since: 11-13-19 Last post: 1468 days Last view: 1468 days |
No, see, my next PC purchase will be an ARM Mac Mini. See? Solves those pesky size problems, heat problems, and I don't have to worry about upgrades either, because what it comes with will be more than sufficient for the next generation or two. |
| CaptainJistuce |
Posted on 20-09-09, 11:57
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Post: #925 of 1164 Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 70 days Last view: 8 hours |
Judging you. --- In UTF-16, where available. --- |
| tomman |
Posted on 20-09-09, 18:12 (revision 1)
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Dinosaur
Post: #770 of 1318 Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 3 days Last view: 3 hours |
So people prefer the "disposable, portless, soldered everything" future to the "we're in total control of our lives" future because... smaller is better? And people ask me why I wonder computers are doomed :/ I suggest to stop calling such No, I don't want a freakin' IBM mainframe on my room (although I wouldn't mind re-purposing one as a storage locker :D). But I also don't want a computer I can fit inside a book either! Not as my main system / daily driver, at least - I can have fun with appliances, but I can't depend solely on these for being a fully functional person. I want ports. I want slots. I want expandability. I want to be able to get my shit working again by replacing whatever part it failed instead of "ooooh, time to buy a new appliance"! But then, that's just me. If you're happy with your appliances and are more productive with them, more power to you. Just leave our big fat ports-a-galore boxes alone and we good. Licensed Pirate® since 2006, 100% Buttcoin™-free, enemy of All Things JavaScript™ |
| kode54 |
Posted on 20-09-09, 22:39
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Post: #86 of 105 Since: 11-13-19 Last post: 1468 days Last view: 1468 days |
See, I like that too. But the tiny appliance that you can't manipulate in any way, and may as well have the software limiting what you can install on it, is what people above are saying the future is. And I maintain several Mac apps anyway. I'll probably need to go that path some day if I want to continue producing Mac apps for people to use. |
| tomman |
Posted on 20-09-13, 04:06 (revision 1)
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Dinosaur
Post: #772 of 1318 Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 3 days Last view: 3 hours |
Didn't noticed this as I'm finally catching up with the final batch of Win7 updates (I haven't even booted to W7 at home THIS YEAR): as a final "fuck you and thanks for all the fish", MS broke your wallpaper on the final update, leaving you with a solid black background (the punishment pirates get when their Windows is deemed "not genuine" by the system)... but only under specific conditions (you have to use the "stretch" mode). Originally there was no fix, except to Sidenote: Windows releases past XP really dislike being booted only a couple time a year. They get all wonky (missing icons, activation failures, excessive slowness), but all you need to restore things to normal is another couple of reboots. Licensed Pirate® since 2006, 100% Buttcoin™-free, enemy of All Things JavaScript™ |
| CaptainJistuce |
Posted on 20-09-13, 05:47
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Post: #927 of 1164 Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 70 days Last view: 8 hours |
I consider a black background preferable to stretched wallpaper, so file this one as "feature, not bug" --- In UTF-16, where available. --- |
| tomman |
Posted on 20-09-13, 15:00 (revision 1)
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Dinosaur
Post: #774 of 1318 Since: 10-30-18 Last post: 3 days Last view: 3 hours |
Apparently nVidia's checkbook is the only one willing to go wide open for that ARM buy: Masayoshi Son is set to sell ARM to greedy greens for $40 BILLION. Turns out that if this comes through, Son would end being a lucky moron as he would be making a $8B profit on the sale. Too bad he will keep blowing those monies on (Does anyone have a non-paywalled link? All sources I can find are the WSJ and Financial Times, which as expected want your money and personal info to read beyond the headline) In the meanwhile, this is gonna become yet another regulatory disaster (divestment hell time, or nVidia will be very busy buying lawmakers) - Apple, Qualcomm, Google, and Samsung have very good reasons to be against the sale. Where is that "Save ARM" consortium / crowdfunding initiative?! Licensed Pirate® since 2006, 100% Buttcoin™-free, enemy of All Things JavaScript™ |
| Screwtape |
Posted on 20-09-14, 06:05
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Is NVIDIA's announcement enough? I believe Apple, Qualcomm and maybe Samsung have perpetual licences, so it doesn't matter what NVIDIA does, they can noodle around and do their own thing. However, one of the big advantages of ARM is its popularity - if NVIDIA screws up and the low end of the market moves over to RISC-V or OpenSPARC or something, those companies might want to shift over as well. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. |
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